I would like to take part in this, but am unsure what the argument is? What are we debating?
I suppose it boils to down to the question is man basically good or basically evil?
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Oh gotcha, to me that is not a black and white question. But I am not a religios man or anything so I look at it from a perspective of todayâs world. I couldnât answer that question from a Religion stand point of how âGod created usâ or anything like that⌠If that is what you guys are talking about. I think some people are geniunely good right to the soul, and some are dark and horrible.
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I would state it as: does the good in people arise naturally from within, or is good behavior learned from without?
Itâs a mix, because babies donât emerge looking to kill their families. However, as time goes on in a personâs life, that person should be learning to be less lazy, selfish, short-sighted, and narrow-minded. The same could be said as societies as a whole.
Most donât.
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Got the mutt groomed today, which includes getting his teeth brushed.
After watching the finale of the NFL All-Time Team with Brady and Belickick I got the distinct impression that neither of them care for Chris Collinsworth.
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True point, however some I feel are just simply born a killer with mental problems. Some killers are born from a good family, with good values and still end up a killer. Now maybe you can argue, they learned it from tv or a movie which is fair. I will definitely say a kid coming from a respectable home with a good father and mother had a far less chance than say someone who comes from a father who beats them every day. So I would definitely say there is a learning factor but at the same time I still think someone can be born evil. Tough question but a good question!
Itâs not just an academic or philosophical exercise, though. It has practical ramifications.
For example, if you believe that, say, 80% of the people will âact rightâ when left to their own devices, then most business regulations become a costly, burdensome, and unnecessary interference with normal market forces. Government wouldnât have to enforce anti-discrimination laws against landlords, because word would get out about the 20% who wonât rent to minorities, and the rest of society would punish those bigoted landlords by not renting from them (in the case of tenants), not wanting to lend them money (in the case of bankers), or not wanting to work on their properties (in the case of plumbers, carpenters, electricians, HVAC techs, etc.).
I hope society can evolve to a state where it is self-policing like that, but we (in America) are still pretty effing far from that state right now. Itâs more like 20% of Americans who would naturally behave according to some sort of rational ethical code without the threat of legal repercussions.
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Iâm busy working right now but I disagree with the premise and numbers and even the conclusion. If most men werenât some form of good humanity would have been destroyed already. And a proper rights respecting government is necessary to mediate such conflicts no matter how good or rational man becomes.
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Ya this is a topic that would be more suited in person. I have my own look on this but would take forever to type lol
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Funny that I write on this stuff for a living. 
Iâve been told to do podcasts to get the ideas across and maybe I will at some point but the written word, to me is the way to get ideas across.
#IdeasMoveTheWorld
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I agree that most are âsome form of good.â I just donât think weâre collectively good enough yet to not require adult supervision.
Embedded in all of this is Paretoâs Principle, which, in this context, means that 80% of the good comes from 20% of the people.
To be clear, I donât think the 80-percenters would rape, pillage, and murder their neighbors if they thought they could get away with it. What I do think they would do is:
- Evade paying their âfair shareâ of taxes, whatever âfair shareâ means, if there were little to no chance of being caught
- Use their (perceived) position of advantage to make business deals that only benefit themselves
- Not lift a finger to prevent or help prosecute a crime, unless they were shamed or otherwise coerced into doing so
Again, to be clear, I am not against businesses or individuals legally taking advantage of tax laws, or of businesses making a fair profit for providing useful goods and services; nor do I advocate vigilantism. I am not against self-interest.
I just donât believe that enlightened self-interest is as prevalent as you seem to. And I have worked for businesses that went out of their way to practice enlightened self-interest (pre-Fiorina Hewlett-Packard comes to mind), so I think I know the difference when I see it.
If I was on my computer at work itâs not bad. I type 100 words a minute. Hard on my phone lol. I still think some people are born evil, some are born nice and genuine. But I do think there is more to it I agree.
Also speaking of which, Iâm watching season 2 of YOU. Very good.
I donât need adult supervision. Some do though thatâs for sure. Thatâs the grey area Iâm talking about. Each and everybody is different.
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Iâm watching The Silence era Dr Who marathon. Matt Smith at his bumbly best, Karen Gillian at peak redhead next door hotness, Alex Kingston at hertop form British sexy milfyness, and the guy who played Rory Rorying it up at Rorytastic levels.
And The Silence. Bad guys who you forgot about as soon as they were out if your line if sight. Freeking chilling.
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Actually this season/story arc was probably as good as the show has ever been. Matt Smith is IMO the best ânewâ doctor. And Amy and Rory were the very best companions.
I hate when I sit on the toilet seat and itâs cold as hell
Cover it with cayenne pepper and it will heat right up
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